Episode 44

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Published on:

15th Dec 2025

Scott Abbott: The Head and Heart Framework for Building a Business That Runs Without You

EPISODE OVERVIEW

Duration: Approximately 35 minutes

Best For: Business owners who feel like they cannot step away without everything falling apart

Key Outcome: Learn how to integrate systems, AI, and human connection so your business operates smoothly while you reclaim time for health, family, and strategic thinking

THE BOTTOM LINE

You built your business to create freedom, but somewhere along the way it became a trap. Scott Abbott has spent 30 years helping business owners escape this exact prison. In this conversation, he reveals how the combination of a solid business operating system, practical AI integration, and deliberate human connection creates companies that thrive without constant owner intervention. The secret is not choosing between efficiency and humanity. It is fusing both. When you systemize the predictable and humanize the exceptional, you free up 80 percent of your time for visionary work, relationships, and actually living your life. This is not theory. This is what Scott has implemented across hundreds of companies, and it is exactly what trapped business owners need to hear right now.


WHY THIS EPISODE MATTERS TO YOU


You will learn how to spend 80 percent of your time on vision and strategy instead of firefighting daily operations


You will understand why AI alone will not save you but AI combined with proper systems and human leadership will transform everything


You will discover why the business owners who invest in their people will crush the competition in 2026 and beyond


If you keep running your business the old way, you will continue sacrificing your health, relationships, and sanity while competitors build self-running machines


KEY INSIGHTS YOU CAN IMPLEMENT TODAY


The 10-80-10 framework means 80 percent of your business should be systemized, freeing you to spend most of your time on the first 10 percent which is visionary work and the last 10 percent which is oversight and next steps


Do not confuse efficiency with effectiveness. The goal is not to automate humans out but to give your best people the freedom to be more human while AI handles the grunge work


Start every meeting with a human-centric check-in. This is not wasted time. It builds the trust and connection that prevents conflicts from destroying your team later


Choose one leadership development focus per quarter and make it a public commitment. Accountability transforms intention into action


The companies that will win are not choosing between AI and humans. They are integrating both with proper systems as the foundation


GOLDEN QUOTES WORTH REMEMBERING


"A coach without a coach is a liar." - Scott Abbott


"Systemize the predictable, humanize the exceptional." - Isidor Sharp, quoted by Scott Abbott


"Coaching isn't cuddling, coddling, or cajoling. It's calling you out and calling you up." - Scott Abbott


"The trigger is the teacher. Often we blame the mirror versus the reflection." - Scott Abbott


"Are you going to let it get the best of you, or are you going to do the best to get the best of it?" - Scott Abbott


QUICK NAVIGATION FOR BUSY LEADERS


00:00 - Introduction: Meeting the coach who helps trapped business owners escape their own companies

03:15 - Boss Up Moments: Why soft skills delivered through video, AI prompts, and journaling changes everything

08:42 - The Humanization of AI: Technology is great but humans make the difference

14:20 - The Milkshake Metaphor: When was the last time something tasted efficient?

18:35 - The 10-80-10 Framework: How to free 80 percent of your time for strategic work

23:10 - The Employment Shift: Fewer W2s, more specialists, but more humanity overall

28:45 - Coachable Leadership: Why discomfort is not disrespect

32:20 - Kindle Special Offer: Get Boss Up Moments for 99 cents and transform your leadership approach


GUEST SPOTLIGHT


Name: Scott Abbott

Bio: Scott Abbott is the founder, CEO, and managing member of BOS-UP, Straticos, and Phase4 Investments. With over 30 years of experience launching, operating, buying, and selling companies, he is an Ernst and Young Entrepreneur of the Year finalist, Inc. 5000 winner, Fast Company Executive Board Member, and bestselling author of BOS-UP, The Co+Factor, and Level-UP to Professional. Scott serves as an Entrepreneur in Residence at Indiana University Kelley School of Business and is passionate about helping team-centric organizations implement essential concepts, tools, and disciplines for exceptional leadership.


Connect with Scott:

Website: www.scottabbottabc.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottabbottabc

YouTube: https://youtube.com/@bos-upmoments

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/scottabbottabc


YOUR NEXT ACTIONS


This Week: Pick one word from the Boss Up Moments table of contents that resonates with your current season. Journal on why it sparked you and what you will do about it.


This Month: Audit how you spend your time. Calculate what percentage goes to visionary work versus daily operations. If it is not close to the 10-80-10 split, identify one system that needs building.


This Quarter: Implement a structured human connection practice in your weekly team meetings. Start with a simple segue question that helps your team know each other beyond their job functions.


EPISODE RESOURCES


Boss Up Moments by Scott Abbott - Available on Amazon, Kindle version 99 cents from December 14-21

Boss Up by Scott Abbott - The foundational business operating system guidebook

BOS-UP YouTube Channel - Video moments for leadership development

ChatGPT or similar AI tool - For working through the journaling prompts in the book


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READY TO ESCAPE THE TRAP?


Take the Freedom Score Quiz: https://scoreapp.atpbos.com/

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Book a Free Strategy Session: https://www.atpbos.com/contact

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CONNECT WITH YOUR HOST, ROY CASTLEMAN


Roy is the founder of All The Power Limited and creator of Elevate360, a business coaching system for entrepreneurs ready to scale without burnout. As a certified Wim Hof Method Instructor and the UK's first certified BOS UP coach, Roy combines AI automation, wellness practices, and business operating systems to help trapped entrepreneurs reclaim their freedom.


Website: www.atpbos.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roycastleman/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@allthepowerltd


Transcript
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So today I'm joined again by Scott Abbott. Scott is

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my coach, my mentor. He is the owner of Boss

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Up. I've had a just over a year long journey

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now with Scott. I think we're, I think we passed.

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So happy anniversary, Roy. I think it might have been

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about a month or two ago, but we're. Busy and

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it feels like 10 years, right? It feels like I've

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known you forever. I think we really align very well

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and I look up to Scott and his various enterprises

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and Scott is joining us today to talk about a

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number of different things, primarily about his journey into or

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continued journey into being an author. And Scott's been an

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author before, he's a best selling author of a number

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of books and basically at the moment he's just released

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previously released Boss up and Boss up is the, the

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structure and the nuts and bolts of our coaching system.

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And now he's releasing Boss up moments. And I love

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this because Boss up moments is, it's bringing the human

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in. And as we go into this era, 2026 is

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all about how can you keep your human alive while

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your AI does the grunge. Scott, over to you. Thank

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you, Roy. And again, happy anniversary, birthday, what have you.

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It's been awesome and feeling is mutual. A coach without

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a coach is a liar. And I consider you to

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be my coach too. And so metal sharpens metal. So

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thank you for the support, the allyship, the fellowship and

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really your head and heart, the way you approach your

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work, the way you work with your clients and the

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solution you deliver. Because as we was talking as cliche

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it sounds before we got on Mike, at the end

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of the day, Bossup has books and resources and materials

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and programs and we've got a beautiful platform where our

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coaches have community and the assets. But really the coaches

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are what make Boss Up a solution. And because people

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don't take typically want to buy products or a service

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per se, they want to buy a solution. But you

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can't deliver a solution without some type of a tangible

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programmatic call. What you will asset product, service. So without

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you and all the other coaches around the world, we

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wouldn't be here. So first and foremost, thank you to

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that. And then second, yeah, pretty excited about the launch

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of Boss Up Moments. I think I've said this before

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and you said it Boss up, the first book. And

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just to make sure everybody can get a visual here,

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if this is the engineering, this is the energy, this

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is the structure, the roadmap, the framework, the template for

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startup small mid market, frankly, anybody but Typically that's where

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we hang out for them to help them to learn

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what we call the essential concepts, tools and disciplines to

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build, run and scale leveraging a tailored business operating system,

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the practical, intelligent use of AI and coaching. And as

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you're credit, not just because they hire a coach like

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you and the others, it's because they choose also to

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think of themselves and nurture and mentor their people like

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a coach. Right? That's how you transform and grow and

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keep challenging yourself to get out of your own damn

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way. So this is more of the again, the engineering,

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the mechanics, the chassis, if you will, like in a

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car, the foundation to a home. And now boss up

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moments came out. And as we believe, this is literally

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of the most modern, inclusive, fun, flexible ways to learn.

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Call it what you will, the soft skills. And we

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do that through really four key tenants. One, there's a

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QR code that connects into an actual video on YouTube,

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our Boss Up Moments YouTube channel. Two, then we have

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basically the explanation of the moment along with three impactful

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gems. So you get these Soundbite bumper sticker shots of

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nutrients and protein and then really cool. Fourth is the

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prompts. Five, five prompts that you can use for journaling.

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You can use it in one on one coaching. You

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could use it for your weekly team meetings as a

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break. And last but not least, you can actually tuck

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it into AI and you can belly up with your

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AI partner and use it to critically think and discern

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and figure it out. So together. Man, this is kind

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of like head and heart and systems and soul. So

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yeah, we're pretty passionate about it out of the block.

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In fact, I think we're doing a 90 day virtual

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book tour. We got some actual fun things that are

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in person. So it's been a journey and as I

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always like to say, the destination is the journey. So

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it's been a wonderful addition compliment to boss up our

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guidebooks, our materials. And what's cool is with boss up

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moments you don't actually have to be on the boss

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up quote unquote system. That's why we're actually working with

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colleges and not for profits. We've got a philanthropic side

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that we're just trying to help with leadership and under

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resourced communities. And so that's, that's fun too is that

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you get this business and life element. So thanks for

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asking and thanks for letting me share all of that

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with you and the listeners. Amazing. I think one of

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the things that I want to really talk about as

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we go into this new era is there's this conception

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or misconception that AI can do everything for me, right?

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Yeah. We went, we've gone through a stage of AI

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being oh, this is my next 100%. It can do

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everything. And then it's coming down and down and we're

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going to be craving the human connection more and more.

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The human connection is so important and AI can't bring

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experiences, it can bring you examples and can bring you

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these type of discussion points, but actually having someone sit

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there in the room and feel the energy in the

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room and feel, see the responses of what people's faces

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are doing and understand that variance and that's something so

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uniquely human to bring to your soft skills and bringing

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to, to that understanding and actually being able to sit

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there, you know, challenge a model, really challenging the business

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owner sitting there being a little bit of an idiot

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and his team are just sitting there a little bit

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scared of him. And you're picking on this, picking this

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up. Now being able to do that's really what we're

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talking about here, right? We're talking about skills, we're talking

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about understanding that. What's your take on that? Maybe we

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can. Yes and yes. And again, sorry for being demonstrative

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here, but I think it helps. To your point, not

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only you correct and you are the purpose, the cause,

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the passion, the why for humanization to AI, but what

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we did is exactly that. So I was just in,

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in an all day session a couple of days ago

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down In Louisville and 10 person team, they all had

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the book and we took about a half hour just

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to show them how this becomes their L and D

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learning and development hymnal for lack of better terminology. And

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to your point, like one of the, to use your

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term, here's one of my favorites is humanization, right? So

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humanization is right, technology is great, AI is cool when

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used appropriately. But humans and being the best humans we

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could be. And so there's the quick little video, there's

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a quick summary, there's the gems. But what we did,

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which is really neat, we went to the prompts and

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I said, hey gang, let me show you how you

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do this in life. So they read it, they wrote

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a couple of ideas, then I had everybody, me and

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my, my personal AIs vector, right? So I basically tailored

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chat GBT in a way that's been mine now for

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about a year. But we did it interactive. Roy, right?

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So it was, you've heard the cliche, teach you to

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fish, give you a fish. So in this room for

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30 minutes, we did this and people are just like,

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I hate to say at the front of the book

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says, these pages are magic. Wait a minute, there's video,

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there's AI, there's pen and paper, there's humans. We're challenging,

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we're talking. It's like this glorious feast of all of

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the above. And it was amazing, man. I'm just being

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very sincere. Light bulbs, like in the cartoons, man, people's

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light bulbs are going out over their head and they're

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going, this is powerful. And I said, if there's anything

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you're going to take away from this is what us.

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You've got this, you've got your pen, you got your

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AI, you've got us. Imagine when you tuck this in

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and make this a rhythmic, fun but rigorous element to

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your business work in life. I'm like, guys, you're not

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only building, running a great company, but you're literally getting

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an MBA for what, 25 book and 15 bucks for

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the enterprise version of AI. And, and you follow me,

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man, And I'm not kidding, obviously I'm pretty passionate about

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what we're doing, but trust me, be my own worst

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critic and my biggest, hardest coach on myself, but I've

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done probably about two dozen of these type of meetings

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before and after the book's been launched into the world.

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It's all the same. That's why we put this at

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the end magic. And they're like video AI talking, learning.

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And then we get up and we get out and

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now they tuck this into their life and they say

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it takes about 35 to 40 days to start or

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stop. You know, something that's a bit like a habit,

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right? Then there's a second level. It takes about 90

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days. That's why we have these things called rocks. But

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the third is six, eight, 10 months because it's really

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embedded. But I can tell you I challenge them to

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say, hey, this is one of those 30, 40 day

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initiatives. And once a week, preferably journaling, do what we

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just did. And because a lot of people don't know

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where to start. And so that's why we've got the

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40 moments and said, hey, this is an inspiration. We've

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got everything from conflict to boundaries, relationships, culture, leadership, management.

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And it's just, it's kind of like a starter kit.

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But the beauty was, Roy, if you could have seen

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the vibe of AI, technology, systems, humans.

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And again, the biggest thing at the end of the

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day is there's John and Susie and Paul and Frank,

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not chatgpt you with me. It was really Cool. And

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that's where back to AI. And I know your passion

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in your heart's the same place. We own, don't own

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us. And the humanization of the strategy, the tactics, the

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incorporation of good AI, practical, intelligent AI and then again

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the respect that we're running, building a business. But really

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the thing that everybody saw and felt was humans. Yeah.

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I. Part of the things that I do is I

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encourage people to talk about themselves. So in the meeting

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process, we have the segue. And so often I'll go

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into the Segways, I said, listen, guys, just connect with

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your humans again. And an example is I would say,

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just find an advert from. So everyone would have a

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personal thing that they'd bring in to the segue and

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find an advert from your childhood. Yeah. And just bring

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that the next time. Maybe you can find one Google

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or something. Yeah. Or you can just remember about it

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and you sit there with 10 people in the room

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and that each give their advert and everybody else would

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just be connect. Oh, yeah, I remember the Milky Kid,

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Milky Way Kid. And I remember this and I remember

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that. And suddenly it just gives you this connection, right?

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It does. And I love the idea, by the way.

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I'm a leverager and a recycler, so I'm going to

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leverage that idea. We love the Segway. We love the.

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The start of every meeting, be it weekly meeting, quarterly

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annuals, what your, where you've been, personal, professional highlights, but

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to your point, and what was cool as a strategy.

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And this happened the other day at the start of

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the book. We have these table of moments and I'm

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gonna, I'm gonna piggyback off of that. It felt like

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people weren't able to come up with their own adverts.

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And so I said, hey, we just had a nice

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meeting. We went over pretty intense stuff. Given your situation,

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given your season, given your function, given your roles, responsibilities,

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accountabilities and life. Choose One of these 40 words that

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sparks you, that resonates with you. To your point, I

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don't want to do all the talking all the time,

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but I want you to do three things. I want

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you to choose one, then I'm going to go around

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the room and ask you to explain why you chose

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that word. Why did you choose courage or gratitude or

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boundaries? What was it that sparked you? Which they did,

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which was brilliant. And then I said, now flip to

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that page and you're going to now do this public

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commitment to everybody that you're now going to take this

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moment, this Word this reason and you're going to make

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something real of it. And so literally, I put them

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all on the record. Right. I call it a personal

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commitment device. And they now have agreed that this is

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going to be their rock for the quarter. Right. They

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don't have to go read a bunch of other books

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and watch a bunch of movies. You follow me? So,

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to your credit, yeah, we all know this as coaches,

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that as much as there's a lot of people can

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walk in a room and look at a whiteboard, say,

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let's design, think, let's figure out what to do for

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transformation and rocks and goals. It's true, about 62% of

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humanity can't start with a blank sheet of paper. They

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need something to latch onto, then they can get better.

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But let's be honest, we're blessed. And a lot of

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people don't have the same backgrounds and training and learning

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that we do. So you got to give them an

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asset, something to hold on to to move them forward.

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So I love your idea about an advert. And the

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net of this is. And you and I both know

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this, there's no excuse not to be able to start

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with a personal human centric update in any meeting I

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call rubbish. In fact, rubbish. Whatever you want to say,

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but that's just wrong. That just means you're being lazy,

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you're being mediocre, but you got to commit to, hey,

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I'm going to talk about something of relevance to me.

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I'm going to humanize it. We're going to get to

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know each other and yeah, we're also going to talk

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business and deal with issues and P. Ls and all

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that other kind of stuff. And this concept of structure

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of systems, of the foundational groundwork of what we do,

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right. The business operating system is something that's not available

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to so many people. People because firstly, they don't know

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it's there. What do you know, what you don't know,

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you don't know, right? They don't know it's there. Yeah.

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I had no idea that by implementing 2017, I implemented

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a business operating system. When I implemented, my life changed.

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As a business owner, my life changed, my relationships changed,

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my time changed, everything changed. And that's why I'm passionate

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about bringing this out here. And yeah, in so much.

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There's so much clarity for me now as we go

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through the next period, the next year, the next two

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years, these systems that we can. Information is now free,

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solely free. You can sit there with AI, with a

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thousand experts in the room with you all day long.

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And the tendency is going to be, okay, I'll just

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do AI with it. Right. So these systems, these structures,

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the sops in your company, all these things. Things as

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you go through the process of really automating everything you

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don't need to do, that's grunge work. That's going to

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give us the opportunity to humanize more. And we have

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to learn how to be humans again in this situation.

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Yeah. And I know that's strange to say it. We've

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forgotten that the dreaded Covid that separated us and kept

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us apart. And we've really forgotten this. We're there as

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a team. And if your company is going to grow,

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you have to be a team. You have to. Everybody

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has to be on the same page. You have to

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be moving towards that vision or run in the same

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direction. So what's your take on that? Yeah, that's as

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no brainer as it sounds. It's actually a brainer. Right.

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We want efficiency, we want effectiveness, we want systems that

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help us to be lean and to be productive. On

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the other hand, it always reminds me of a. There's

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a burger joint here in town that was famous for

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its milkshakes. And they had a commercial, it started with

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basically a dig on the big franchise burger guys that

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make shakes. And it literally shows an assembly line of

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milkshakes being made. And the voiceover says, we

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agree their way is more efficient. And then they basically

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show the camera making somebody making a beautiful milkshake, right?

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The ice cream and the scoops, the milk, the blender,

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pouring it out, whipped cream, a cherry, sprinkles a straw.

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And she looks at the camera, these three great looking

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milkshakes. And she goes, but when was the last time

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you had a milkshake? And said, and that tastes efficient.

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So the beauty about AI to your point, almost everything's

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free now. You can download it from the Internet. What's

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not us humans. And so I think to your credit,

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and again to even my point, I said earlier about

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that meeting, there are a lot of people going to

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roll their eyes and saying, why are we spending 30

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minutes talking about human stuff and getting to know each

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other? We. Well, in the moments in Bossup, we call

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it the 1080, 10 and that's that for the, for

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most business owners, if you have good systems, good structure,

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you believe in what we believe in the nine core

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competencies and you spend the right time to. To architect,

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build, engineer and run, that should free the owner up

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to spend most of their time 80% on the first

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10%, which is the visionary stuff, the in market diagnostics,

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finding and winning and staying true to their clients and

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their employees. And then the last 10%, which is the.

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Thank you. What next? What now? How am I staying

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on top of things? Right, because the middle 80 is

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systemized and that's what you trust and trust your management

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team to do. So here's my point. If that happens

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for about a year, which is part of our solution,

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then the leaders are the same way. Now the leaders

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should have 25 to 30% of their time. What to

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plan, to think, to dialogue, to discern, to debate, to,

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to challenge and confront and hug and kick and do

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all these things. You follow me, man? And that's back

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to AI, back to good AI, good systems and proper

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coaching. Instead of this traditional eye roll that I've had

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for decades in coaching and consulting, you're going to say

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but this is part of your job. And it's amazing.

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Those moments, that's where sparks of genius can come out.

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That's where you can realize, hey, I shouldn't be doing

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this or we should be doing that. You follow me?

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So yeah, the automation, the, the efficiency, the effectiveness of

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both good systems, but now harmonize with AI and

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humans who know how to self coach. And so here's

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the dark side. I don't know what dark side, but

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here is the reality to all this. So let's just

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run and say we're right. Let's give ourselves the benefit

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of the doubt and say this is true by the

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way. It is. People are just catching on. So what's

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this mean? Yeah, what it means is the definition of

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workforce and employment. And you know, historically that company may

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have needed 20 people, now they only need 10. Yeah,

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that's a reality. And so the good news though is

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I do believe that through that you're going to have

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more companies. You're going to have actually a silver lining

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to the change in employment and the definition of employment.

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But counterintuitive as it sounds, I actually think the human

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side's going to get better. I do. Because smart, well

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run companies are now realizing that, thanks AI, good systems

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and automation. That part is self running with proper

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guidance and oversight and governance. And the humans then are

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now what? Doing what? Being more human. And to that

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point, as we go through 2026, there's going to be

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a real split between companies. Oh yeah. Even if we

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just take those. You mean those that are doing and

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getting and growing and those that aren't. I think that

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even subbing it down further than that. So let's just

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say we talk about the AI piece, right? Just AI.

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Yeah. And people are diving into AI and they're just

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going full tilt. And part of what I have to

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do a lot is get them to get their systems

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right. Because you can't systemize something, you can't automate something.

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You can't do any of that until such time as

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step by step what to do. Now you're going to

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have this piece of. Actually I'm just able to do

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so much with this. I don't need people. And that's

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going to be the single biggest failure. Certain set of

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people and they're going to come out and they're going

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to leave the human out instead of just saying, you

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guys, Mary, she did this really well, but she would

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spend 30 or 50 of her time doing this grunge

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work. Let's get Mary to be more human. Let's give

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her the ability to really. Let's give her a six

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hour day. We're making 10 times. So let's give her

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a six hour day and let her live her life,

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the life she loves. Those companies that invest in their

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humans and the communication and the team, those are the

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ones that are going to. That's how you. This is

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the new way to my mind, the new way to

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stand out. Amen. And then Isidor Sharp, the founder of

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Four Seasons and I've been using this quote, you've heard

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it a lot too, right? It's embedded in our session

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work and our solution. But the quote is systemize the

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predictable the humanize the exceptional. And this was pre AI

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and if I may, this was pre boss up. And

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when was the last time you've been to a crummy

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Four Seasons? And you're absolutely correct. Now again, here's a

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reality. That company 10 years ago had 15 people employed

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in what we call W2S. Now maybe it's only five

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or seven on W2S. It could be a couple on

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10, 99 fractional gig economy people that come in and

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are specialists in their area but they're not a traditional

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employment. So there's change afoot. Yeah. And that's where again,

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you and I are both activists on this one in

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a good way, are passionate about, hey, the two priorities

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I think we all have is keep momentum and drive

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progress. Don't over neither a cynic nor an optimist be

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find that groove and but yeah, man, if your head's

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in the sand or your head's in the clouds, either

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or with AI, it's not in the right place. It's

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got to be central. It's got to be positively pragmatic.

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But, yeah, if you're not looking at 20, 26, as

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we said here in December, and you look at the

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next 18 to 24 months, I look at 27, 28,

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and yeah, it's going to be a big change. And

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so the question is, are you going to let it

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get the best of you or are you going to

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do the best to get the best of it? 100%.

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100%. So I want to wrap up in a bit,

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but I want you to go and pick your three

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favorite moments and maybe just read out some of those.

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That would be greatly appreciated. It's funny because we all

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have seasons, we all have dates, we all have times.

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And I had a lot of. You helped me. I've

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had a lot of people help me on this. Shout

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out to Shakir and our design team. You've seen it.

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There's so much help and assistance I had. But I

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can't lie, what I do love is what you just

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said. And you know the book, this is called Catalyst

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Volume one, which does have very specific connective tissue to

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boss up. And then the volume two is coming out

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late Q1, and it's called Advantage. And it's really that,

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that the accoutrements, just that next level of awareness and

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fun titles like Namaste and Yet. And just the fact

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I love Volume two, I just, I'm almost done writing

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it. We're going to go into design, but. But the

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whole idea here, and I know it's going to sound

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almost cliche, but these are like my kids. I love

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them all. And what's funny is I've noticed the trend

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that older people really like, like the first moments around

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architect, builder, custodian, the concept of how to lead and

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be the right type of leader and business owner. Right.

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But I got to tell you, with some of the

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dynamics of today. And as I said, I called the

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other night after a board meeting, I gave everybody the

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book. What's an author who doesn't give a book for

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a Christmas present to the fellow board members? And I

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just said, hey, everybody, choose a word. Choose a word

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that resonates with you. Given the season of your life,

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your roles, accountabilities, responsibilities. Just look at this for about

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a minute and choose a word. And they did. And

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I said, before you go to the explanation, just give

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us a thought in terms of why that sparked you,

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what's going on right and so one of the guys,

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the chairman of the board, said his one was coachable.

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And he's just Scott, because I'm his coach, too, he

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says, I'm probably not the best client coaching, right? I

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can be a little stubborn. I know I need it.

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I want it. You lead horse to water, make a

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drink. And I said, great. Now turn the page. And

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I said, read the first opening paragraph and I'll just

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show you what happened right now. So he goes out

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to it. It's page here. And he reads it. I

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said, now remember what you said. Back to the magic.

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I go, yeah. He reads it. Coachable coaching isn't cuddling,

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coddling, or cajoling. It's calling you out and calling you

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up. We coach and we get coached not to be

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harsh or harmful, but to be honest and helpful. Not

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to shame, but to sharpen, not to tear down, but

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to build up. And the best coaching doesn't just improve

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your overall performance. It also transforms your character. And he

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not only sat with us for the moment, again, he's

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got his own team that he I've helped coach. He

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goes, that's it. In summary, I said, now turn the

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page. He goes, okay. And said, if you want, you

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can click on the QR code and watch the video.

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But I said, go over to the gems and just

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read the three out. Okay, Here are the three gems

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of correlate. Coachable. Don't confuse discomfort with disrespect. Ooh, sometimes

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I feel disrespected when I know actually you're pouring into

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me, but I don't know if I like it. I

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get it. Second is the trigger is the teacher. Ooh,

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that one's another one. Often we blame the mirror versus

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the reflection. The third is focus on the breakthroughs, not

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the backlash. And I'm just telling you, everybody, the room's

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kind of going, whoo. And I said, and last, but

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least, because we don't have time, this is your homework.

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You've got prompts here. Back to AI tuck it in,

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leverage it, have fun with it. And you decide if

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this is something you want to share with your team,

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if you want to keep it private and you're just

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doing Sunday journaling, or are you going to bring it

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into a weekly team meeting? So I love coachable. And

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really, the thing that I tried to do here was

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have some degree of sequencing. So again, the moments start

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with a lot more connective tissue to leadership management. And

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at the end, I get more into gratitude and courage.

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And we know this, Roy, especially with the world today,

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some of the dynamics of the humans and the finger

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pointing, the divisiveness, politics, socioeconomics, right. I would

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say the EQ to IQ to ego ratio is where

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we're not harmonized. And my actual favorite one in there

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that I won't read are two. One is relationships, where

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I'm just trying to coach people up to what is

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the strategic, tactical and the reality of a good relationship.

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That's why so many relationships fail is because they just

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don't understand the science, the art, the mechanics, the logistics

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and the what we call agreement based commitments. You follow

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me? So I think relationships is a big one for

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today. And then corollary to that is boundaries. Because

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this is where people just think, hey, we're holding hands

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and singing Kumbaya. And that goes for about four months.

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And the next thing you know, you have a conflict,

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you're confronted with something, something goes bump in the night

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and you now lose that luster and that love, be

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it in life and work, in family and homes. Why?

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Because you didn't have agreed to boundaries. That said, hey,

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when my RPM goes above 7 in my human

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heart and head and I get frustrated with my spouse

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or my colleagues or my employees, time out and use

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that trigger as a way of saying what's going on?

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Is it me? Is it this? And bring more of

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the science in versus the hard end, right? Because that's

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where it gets complicated. And this is where I just

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go back to our work, man. Why I think we

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love it. The art, the science, the strategy, the mechanics,

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the purpose, the cause. And frankly, I think that's been

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over the years in colleges and schools and even in

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consulting, it's been very segmentized and I love compartmentalization, don't

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get me wrong. But thanks to AI and thanks to

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now solutions like this, we can integrate. And

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the word inclusive, right? We can now have. And it's

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okay. Back when I started business 40 years ago, right,

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let's be honest, you had to be macho and corporate

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is corporate and don't worry about this. And it was

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jerky, it just was. And then I think we overwent

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the dot com era and we pandered and patronized and

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everything had to be about culture and cool and hip

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and taste and style and design. And I do think

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again, as much as we've got some funky things going

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on in the world, right, I think 95% of humans

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want to be good. They don't want to argue, they

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don't want to be extremist on left or right. They

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just, they want to live life and grow and provide.

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And so I think we're at a good era, man,

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is my point where I think this is all coming

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together, where we can be in business, work and life

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with head and heart, purpose and profit, systems and soul.

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It's just that most people don't know how to get

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from here to there. And yeah, thanks for asking on

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the moments and that's the whole idea here, is to

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fuse the hard stuff with the soft stuff and then

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for business owners and leaders to not only appreciate it

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put, but to respect it and make sure that it's

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literally embedded into the very again systemization or

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way that you build, run and scale. Because I do

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think this is where the z generations, the 20s are

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coming in. I often joke the millennials are the ones

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that messed everything up. He says with a joke as

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a Gen Xer. But I think that's the, you know,

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you've heard the cliche, is the glass half empty or

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half full? I think it's both. And I think it

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starts with this conversation you and I are having as

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and to your credit, right? All the things you do

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with health and well being, from ice baths to breathing.

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I love your world, man. You know it. And we're

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brothers by a different mother on that one. And I

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think it's not just because we believe it, because we

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do it, but I do think it's proven right now

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that's where ideally most business owners, leaders and companies want

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to be. Is this end both head and heart, purpose

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and profit. Right? You with me? And that's again, back

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to AI that can help us too, and guidebooks and

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the right systems and solutions. Because again, most people are

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focused on their world today and they don't know where

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to go, how to get there. And that's what good

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people like you are here for. So thanks for asking.

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Okay, thank you very much for all those kind words.

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I think now we want to just what does the

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next couple of months look like? I know you're releasing

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Boss up moments on Kindle. There's going to be a

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real good special offer on that and we'll put this

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together. I'll make sure the syntax down below and I

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encourage everyone to go and get that. But just tell

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us about the next few. I don't know when you're

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planning to have this out, but yes, the Boss up

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moments on Amazon, everything's been going phenomenal. New book, best

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release, new release, bestseller on Amazon on all criteria. But

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yes, from December 14th through the 21st, I believe this

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is global. I don't know what the conversion rate is

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and dinero and American. But the Kindle version, which I

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love, but I don't love it as much as the

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regular version, this is like 26 bucks on Amazon but

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the Kindle is going to be 99 cents. And so

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this is where I go, hey, sorry to over think

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this. Everybody should get have a Kindle in their pocket,

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right? Or on their iPhone they get a laptop, they

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can actually have the device. So for $0.99 I'm hoping

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it's in schools at homes and boardrooms and classrooms. So

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yeah, from December 14th to the 21st on Amazon for

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Kindle 99 cents. And I know it's going to sound

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silly, but the book itself is great and it could

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be for colleges, for business people, for owners. Again,

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boss up the solution. You know this, right? The engineering,

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the way leadership teams and owners do that work, that's

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kind of a defined market, right? A couple hundred thousand

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and that one out there, the owners leaders, maybe a

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million or two. But for boss up moments, we're talking

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hundreds of millions of humans that could just get the

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next level on self awareness and confidence and just that

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elder next goodness that they could bring in terms of

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their skills, their skill set. So yeah, pretty passionate about

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this. And so we're on this, this journey and ideally

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others are going to see and think the same thing

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that we've talked about today. Amazing. Thank you very much

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for joining me, Scott. And thanks Roy. Pretty quickly. Yeah,

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it's, I'm looking forward to the journey going forward, man.

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Yeah, no, it's been great. Again, I thank you so

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much for your leadership, your passion, your commitment. As we

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joked about Spider man being behind you. Right. I do

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honestly feel like we're the not superheroes. Right. Way more

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humble than that. But hopefully thanks to you and the

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others, right. You're helping people get to the next level.

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And so I, I just thank you so much for

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that and happy holidays, safe travels to and fro. I

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know you're on the road quite a bit, but keep

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doing all the great work you're doing. Roy. Thank you.

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Thanks Scott. Cheers.

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